(95) MGWA is be back

[valius lisanus]

[quote name='Azur' timestamp='1417609191' post='2673293']
Du coup, c'est validé.
Et vous savez s'il y aura un autre règlement Draft ETC avant le tournoi, parce que du coup je dois changer pas mal de chose dans mon armée />
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1 voir 2 mais sans trop de changement majeur à priori (enfin on espère )

[Redisdead]

Pour le coup on prend le dernier draft? Car çà serait méchamment plus interessant.

[kiri]

Vous pensez utilisez les tables ou pas?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_DcPz0zAHPjal8wMmNraXV4MG8/view?pli=1

[valius lisanus]

[quote name='Redisdead' timestamp='1419148363' post='2681797']
Pour le coup on prend le dernier draft? Car çà serait méchamment plus interessant.
[/quote]
Un draft vient de sortir , je (ou un des orgas ) postera le lien dès que possible Modifié le 6 janvier 2015 par valius lisanus

[Le_druchueur]

Bon perso valus je sais pas si c'est le dernier draft mais voici le reglement du draft 1 on reste sur la vague du l'idée d'un draft 2 semaines avant sauf si celui ci change vraiment tout... mais le délire d'inclure d' epidemus /hellborn y a qui peuvent laisser leurs cerveaux chez eux pour 2015 ... tu me diras vu ce qu'on nous annonce... l'an prochain armée mi-space marine mi haut elfe sur socle ovale

Rules changes
Up to 2 Characters in a unit can get a 2+ "Look Out, Sir!" against Dwellers Below, Final Transmutation and Dreaded 13th. Normal requirements for Look Out, Sir! apply.

BSBs can take all the equipment their unit type has access to as if they weren't BSBs.

Units fleeing at the end of the game and/or below 25% of starting models yield 50% of their VPs.

Simple Line of Site will be used instead of True Line of Sight as defined below:

Terrain pieces are divided into ones that:
- Block LoS: Hills, Buildings and impassable terrain.
- Don't block LoS: all other terrain.

Unit is considered to be in hard cover when:
- Majority of unit's footprint is obscured from shooter's Line of Sight by one or more Interfering Unit(s) or LOS blocking terrain(s), as described on page 41 BRB
- Unit is garrisoning a Building, as described on page 127 BRB
- Majority of unit's front rank is defending an obstacle, as described on page 122 BRB and ETC FAQ 8.4. If the unit is being shot from the flank or the rear, treat the corresponding file or the last rank, respectively, as the front rank
- Majority of unit's footprint is in Ruins

Unit is considered to be in soft cover when:
- Majority of unit's footprint is in or behind woods, as described on page 119 BRB

Models shooting from hills or buildings don't get the hard cover penalty for shooting through interfering units, unless interfering the unit is also on hill.

Units with majority of its models on hill do not receive hard cover for being shot at through interfering units, unless that part of the units which interferes is also on hill. Units with majority of its models on hill do not receive hard cover for being partially obscured from the shooter's LoS by the same hill they are on

Large Targets can't claim cover for obstacles, ruins and interfering units, unless interfering unit is also a Large Target. Large Targets which shoot don't suffer any penalties for interfering units, unless interfering unit is also a Large Target.


Magic Restrictions

A maximum of 2 dice may be added to the power pool

A 5 Dice Casting Cap will be in effect for all spells

Lore of Death spells will have a 4 dice casting cap in effect

The Lore of Shadow spell Mindrazor will have a 4 dice casting cap in effect

The Lore of Hashut spell AshStorm will have a 4 dice casting cap in effect

Lore of undeath will be available to all wizards as follows :
4 dice casting cap
No ethereal units may be raised
Raised units give up victory points

Scenarios
The following four scenarios will be used with the 20-0 scoring system as described below:-

1: Battle line (normal game)

2: Meeting engagement (no reserve rolls, all units deploy on the board as normal)

3: Blood and glory - 150 vp's for first player break opponent, further 300 vp's if that player remains unbroken. (If all remaining fortitude is in one unit, the army is broken).

4: King of the hill - the player that holds the center point of the table at the end of turn 6 receives an additional 300 vp's - to hold this a unit must have fortitude (excluding bsb and General).

Before a game both players secretly pick which scenario they want to play,

Player A then rolls a d6
Roll of 1-2 - the game is played using the scenario player A chose
Roll of 3-4 - the game is played using the scenario player B chose
Roll of 5-6 - the game is played using the battle line scenario
(Note players may select battleline as their choice)

Army Building Restrictions
All the Army building restrictions are applied only during the creation of the roster, and may be ignored during the game (for example, by joining characters to units or creating new units).

The army lists allowed are those from any of the currently published GW Army Books, and The Legion of Azgorh from Tamurkhan.

Undead Legions, the Legions of Chaos and any other End Times army lists are not allowed.

Special or Named Characters that appear in army books are allowed - this excludes all characters that appear in End Times books. Special Charachter composition will be added to this pack

Fozzrik’s Folding Fortress may not be taken.

Units cannot be more than 450 points at the point of roster creation. This does not apply to characters.

All army sizes are 2400 points unless stated otherwise in race specific composition below.

Armies must be constructed on the following basis (in addition to any specific conditions imposed by their army book)

Minimum of 3 units
Minimum of 1 character that can be the army general
Maximum of 50% of points spent on lords
Maximum of 50% of points spent on heroes
Minimum of 25% of points spent on core units
Maximum of 50% of points spent on special units
Maximum of 25% of points spent on rare choices

A team consists of 8 players, each of which with an army from a different army list.

A wizard generating spells from lore of death and the Standard of Discipline are mutually exclusive in any army list




Beastmen
Army size is 2700 points.

Maximum unit size at roster creation excluding characters is increased to 550 points.

May take Blight Kings of Nurgle from Warhammer End Times - Glotkin

Marks of Chaos within the army as detailed below
Mark of Khorne – As per Warriors of Chaos Book - 10 points for a character, monster, chariot or warbeast, 2 points for all other models
Mark of Tzeentch – As per Warriors of Chaos Book - 10 points for a character, monster, chariot or warbeast, 2 points for all other models
Mark of Nurgle – As per Warriors of Chaos Book - 10 points for a character, monster, chariot or warbeast, 2 points for all other models
Mark of Slaanesh – As per Warriors of Chaos Book - 5 points for a character, monster, chariot or warbeast, 1 points for all other models
Note that the Marks of Tzeentch, Nurgle and Slaanesh DO NOT allow wizards access to the corresponding lore from the Warriors of Chaos Book. Wizards with a mark have access to the same lores of magic as unmarked beastmen wizards (Shadow, Beasts, Death, Beastmen)

May take any beastmen special characters.


Brettonia
Army size is increased to 2500 points

May take any Brettonian special characters.

Chaos Dwarves
May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
Each character using the Lore of Death – 1 choice
Each HellCannon - 1 choice (3 choices with lore of death)
Kdaii Destroyer – 2 choices
Each DeathShrieker, Magma Cannon, Dreadquake Mortar or Iron Demon – 1 choice
Each 2(or part of 2) hobgoblin khans after the first 2 - 1 choice
Chalice of Blood and Darkness (may be used only before casting a spell) - 1 choice

May take any Chaos Dwarf special characters.

Dark Elves
May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
Each character using the Lore of Death – 2 choices
Each 5(or part of 5) Doomfire Warlock models – 1 choice
Each mounted dreadlord or master – 1 choice
One or more repeater bolt throwers– 1 choice
Each unit of dark riders after the second - 1 choice
Standard of Discipline, Crown of Command – 1 Choice each
More than 80 shots per turn (Repeater bolt throwers count as 6 shots) - 2 choices
Morathi - 4 choices (Lore of Death choice is included)
Malekith - 2 Choices
Shadowblade - 1 choice

May take any Dark Elf special characters.

Demons of Chaos
May take Blight Kings of Nurgle from Warhammer End Times - Glotkin- these models are not demonic and therefore may not be joined by any model with the demonic special rule. If the general and / or BSB have the mark of Nurgle they may benefit from them.

May take Exalted Flamers

May select up to 4 choices from the pool below:
Lore of Death present in the army – 2 choices
First Skullcannon – 1 choice
Second Skullcannon – 3 choices
Each Greater demon(Including Skarsbrand, Ku’gath) – 1 choice
Each unit of Pink Horrors after the second – 1 choice
Each unit of Plague Flies – 1 choice
Up to 2/6/10 beasts of nurgle in the army - 1/2/3 choices
Kairos Fateweaver - 4 choices
The Blue Scribes - 1 choice
Epidemius - 1 choice + 1 choice per unit of demons of nurgle.

May take any Demons of Chaos special characters.

Dwarves
May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
Each Cannon, Organ gun, Grudge Thrower or Flame cannon - 1 choice each
Each 2 (or part there of) gyrocopters after the first - 1 choice
Grimm Burloksson - 1 choice

May take any Dwarf special characters.


Empire
May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
Steam Tank – 1 choice
Second Steam Tank – 4 choices
Crown of Command, Standard of Discipline, War altar, Great Cannon – 1 choice each
Third Great Cannon – 1 additional choice
3 or more wizards using the Lore of Light - 1 choice
Each unit of 4 or less Demi-Griffons – 1 choice
Each unit of 5 or more Demi-Griffons – 2 choices
Balthasar Gelt - 1 choice
·
May take any Empire special characters.

High Elves
May select up to 2 choices from the pool below:
Banner of the World Dragon - 1 choice
Each frostheart Phoenix above one - 1 choice
3 or more mounted characters - 1 choice
1 or more characters on the lore of death - 1 choice
(Loremaster(s) of Hoeth do not count towards this)
1 or more bolt throwers - 1 choice
60 or more shots in the army (Repeater bolt throwers count as 6 shots) - 1 choice
Teclis - 2 choices
Alarielle - 2 choices

May take any High Elf special characters.

Lizardmen
May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
Slann Mage Priest with Harmonic Convergence – 1 choice
Second Slann Mage Priest – 1 choice
Slann Mage Priest taking the Lore of Death – 1 choice
(Slann Mage Priests with the Wandering Deliberations do not count towards this)
Each mounted saurus character after the first – 1 choice
Each flying unit/character after the third – 1 choice
Each unit of core skirmishers after the third - 1 choice
Each skink cohort after the third - 1 choice
Lord Mazdamundi - 1 choice
Lord Kroak - 2 choices
Tetto’Eko - 3 choices
·
May take any Lizardmen special characters

Orcs and Goblins
Army size is increased to 2500 points

May take any Orcs and Goblins Special Characters


Ogres
May select up to 10 choices from the pool below:
First Ironblaster - 1 choice
Second Ironblaster – 6 choices
The Hellheart - 2 choices
The Runemaw, Dispel Scroll, Crown of Command, Standard of Disc - 1 choice each
Each unit of maneaters with either sniper and /or stubborn – 1 choice
1 or more sabretusks in the army - 1 choice
1 or more Slaughtermasters in the army – 1 choice
Each unit of gnoblars after the second – 1 choice
Each 4 mounfang (or part there of) in the army – 1 choice
Each character after the third – 2 choices
Skragg - 1 choice (for being a slaughtermaster)

May take any Ogres Special Characters


Skaven
Slave units can be a maximum of 60 models.

May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
First Warp-lightening Cannon - 1 choice
Second Warp-lightening Cannon - 2 choices
Each doomwheel -- 1 choice
First Hellpit Abomination - 1 choice
Second Hellpit Abomination - 2 choices.
Stormbanner - 1 choice (2 choices with double hellpit Abomination)
Each non wizard warplock Engineer after the first - 1 choice
Each 40 slaves (or part there of) over 120 slave models - 1 choice
Each 2 slave units(or part there of) after 3 -- 1 choice

May take any Skaven Special Characters

Tomb Kings
Army size is increased to 2700 points.

Maximum unit size at roster creation excluding characters is increased to 550 points.

Army does not crumble upon the death of the Heirophant

May include the following units from Warhammer End Times – Nagash
Morghast Harbingers
Morghast Archai

May add up to 3 power dice to the pool instead of 2 if an army does not include Arkhan

May take any Tomb Kings Special Characters


Vampire Counts
May include the following units from Warhammer End Times – Nagash
Morghast Harbingers
Morghast Archai

May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
Terrorgheist – 1 choice
2nd Terrorgheist – 3 choices
Each character with Red Fury and/or Quickblood – 1 choice
Each character using the Lore of Death - 1 choice
Each ethereal character or unit – 1 choice
Each unit of hexwraith after the 1st - 1 choice
Each Scream after the first – 1 choice
More than 10 crypt horrors in the army - 1 choice
Each Direwolf and / or Fellbat unit after the fourth - 1 choice
Count Mannfred - 2 choices (including death)

May take any Vampire Counts Special Characters

Warriors of Chaos
May take Blight Kings of Nurgle from Warhammer End Times – Glotkin

May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
Each character using the Lore of Death – 1 choice (2 choices if it is a deamon prince)
Each Demon Prince – 1 choice
2+ or better save on a Demon Prince - 1 choice
Each Demon Prince with Mark of Nurgle – 1 choice
Exalted hero mounted on a demonic mount – 1 choice
Model with a 3+ ward save and the third eye of tzeetnch - 2 choices
HellCannon – 1 choice (2 with lore of death or tzeentch)
2nd HellCannon – 2 choices (3 with lore of death or tzeentch)
Each Chimera – 1 choice
Each unit of Skullcrushers after the first – 1 choice
Each Core chariot after the second – 1 choice
Each flying model after the second - 1 choice
Archaon - 2 choices
Galrauch - 1 choice
Vilitch - 1 choice
Throgg - 3 choices

May take any Warriors of Chaos Special Characters

Wood Elves
All limits are about models, you can spread them anyway you like among units, unless otherwise specified.

May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
Each character using the Lore of Death – 1 choice (3 choices if 6 or more sisters of the thorn are present in an army)
Each unit of Wild Riders after the first – 1 choice
Each 10 Waywatchers (or part there of) - 1 choice
Each 15 models (or part there of) equipped with trueflight arrows or hagbane arrows after the first 15 models - 1 choice
Each Waystalker after the first – 1 choice
Moonstone of the Hidden Ways – 1 choice (4 choices with lore of death)
Sisters of Twilight - 1 choice

May take any Wood Elf Special Characters

[kiri]

Hello,

Pas sur d'avoir bien pigé, quelle est la dead line pour envoyer les listes?

[sixbras]

[quote name='kiri' timestamp='1421834682' post='2696076']
Hello,

Pas sur d'avoir bien pigé, quelle est la dead line pour envoyer les listes?
[/quote]



Si j'ai bien compris pas necessaire d'envoyer les listes. Elles seront validés par ton adversaire le samedi matin. Exact ?


Pour ma part je voudrais savoir comment se déroulent appariements ?

[Gaspacho]

Je me permets de relancer la question de la deadline pour les listes?
Les orga peuvent-ils confirmer?

Est-ce le 31 janvier comme pour l'inscription au buffet?
Deux semaines avant le tournoi?
Le jour J comme évoqué par Sixbras?
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Merci!

[Le_druchueur]

oui c'est effectivement ça les listes seront bien corrigés par votre adversaire lors de la première partie en revanche je vous propose de m'envoyer les listes un peu en cas d'oublie le jour du tournoi

Pardon pour le retard dans ma réponse mais j'ai pas vu passer les questions dans mon FA.

[Ankor]

Heu...je vais poser une question peut être con, mais en cas d'erreur on fait quoi ?
Pourquoi ne pas compiler toutes les listes dans un fichier word envoyé à tous les capitaines et pouf, ça règlera les erreurs de dernier moment...

Ank'

[Leth]

[quote name='Ankor' timestamp='1422348991' post='2699311']
Heu...je vais poser une question peut être con, mais en cas d'erreur on fait quoi ?
Pourquoi ne pas compiler toutes les listes dans un fichier word envoyé à tous les capitaines et pouf, ça règlera les erreurs de dernier moment...

Ank'
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+1 avec gros lapin !


Leth

[Gaspacho]

+1 avec les deux gros lapins!

Ce serait pas mal de collecter les listes pour les diffuser aux capitaines par email 15 jours avant le tournoi.

[Ankor]

Surtout qu'avec les nouveaux systèmes de restrictions de "points max" à dépenser, au dernier tournoi, pas mal d'erreurs là dessus.
Ca me ferait mal d'enlever une unité au mec en face avant même de commencer à jouer...

Bref, ça serait plus cool de tout avoir avant.

Ank'

[Falanirm]

Moi je m'en fiche, je joue en Légendaire ! />


Ah non, pas là />

[Redisdead]

Hello,
les listes seront suffisement variees avec les persos spe.
Perso ca ne me derange pas de les poster directement sur le forum.
Par contre on ne prendrait pas le drafts 2? Ca serait pt plus utile pour les equipes preparant l etc.
Mes 3 sous

[Le_druchueur]

alors pour les listes : en cas de problème, bas comme d'habitude c'est faux tu joues avec moins de points, sauf si adversaire dit ok. Maintenant ceux qui veulent si vous m'envoyer les 4 listes avant le 15 février je m'engage à vous les corrigez maintenant encore une fois c'est pas obligatoire. Ceux qui veulent avoir plus de temps les listes seront corrigées le jour même ... il faut juste avoir sur place une liste avec tout...

Pour le draft comme dit dans le règlement on prendra celui actif à partir du 2 février ... maintenant si un draft sort le 3 ou 4 on le prendra maintenant il faut savoir poser une limite Modifié le 28 janvier 2015 par Le_druchueur

[Leth]

[quote] en cas de problème, bas comme d'habitude c'est faux tu joues avec moins de points, sauf si adversaire dit ok[/quote]
Ca induit que nous vérifions nous-même les listes adverses avant les parties, donc perte de temps supplémentaire en plus des appariemments & co.

Je ne comprends pas pourquoi vous ne demandez pas les listes, les corrigez, les diffusez par mail aux capitaines des équipes et puis tout le monde relit derrière et corrige les dernières erreurs / boulettes restantes ?
En plus cela rendra plus fluide les appariemments car tout le monde connaîtra les listes de chacun.

Tout à y gagner.


Leth

[Gaspacho]

Limite, vous les corrigez même pas, et vous laissez les capitaines corriger les listes des autres équipes comme prévu, mais deux semaines à l'avance plutôt que le jour J!

[Ankor]

Absolument. Y'a juste à tout compiler en word et pouf .

Ank'

[Jaina]

Vais pouvoir spammer ici, plutôt que par mail, maintenant :P

 

Z'avez reçu mon chèque ?  :mrgreen:

[Cynosarge]

Pour le buffet, on peut manger végétarien (pas de viande ni poisson) ? :)

[Lakelui]

Question : un AR 2.5.1 est sorti la semaine dernière. Il apporte des modifications sur des points qui portaient à interprétation. Est-ce bien celui-ci qui sera utilisé ?

Merci pour votre réponse et bon courage pour l'organisation.

[Leth]

 

Question : un AR 2.5.1 est sorti la semaine dernière. Il apporte des modifications sur des points qui portaient à interprétation. Est-ce bien celui-ci qui sera utilisé ?
 

J'espère sinon je ne vois pas l'intérêt de faire un tournoi au format ETC si celui-ci n'est plus valide .......


Leth

[drakkhenn]

Pour le buffet, on peut manger végétarien (pas de viande ni poisson) ? :)

 

Etant donné que vous n'avez pas pris l'option repas , la question ne se pose pas ..!..

[Le_druchueur]

Question : un AR 2.5.1 est sorti la semaine dernière. Il apporte des modifications sur des points qui portaient à interprétation. Est-ce bien celui-ci qui sera utilisé ?

Merci pour votre réponse et bon courage pour l'organisation.

 

comme dit dans le mail de la semaine dernière nous prendrons le réglement 2.5 vous n'êtes pas obligés de m'envoyer les listes mais ce qu'ils veulent une validation c'est avant le  22 février soit dimanche